Episode 223: This week on Real Health Radio, Chris does a round up of his favourite books, documentaries, podcasts and music of 2020.
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Chris Sandel: Welcome to Episode 223 of Real Health Radio. You can find the show notes and the links talked about as part of this episode at seven-health.com/223.
Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Real Health Radio. I’m your host, Chris Sandel, and today it is my annual roundup show where I talk about my favourite books and documentaries and podcasts and music from the last year, so from 2020. This is the sixth time of me doing this. If you want to see what I’ve consumed in previous years, I’ll link to all of those other shows in the show notes.
I’ll do the same for each of the categories for this year. So for the books, I’ll list all of the books that I read this year, and then obviously go through the ones that I go through today, and I’ll do the same for the documentaries and the podcasts, etc.
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Let’s start with the books. This year I read 23 books in total. As always happens, I will discover some other book or multiple books that I forgot to add to the list, but at this time it’s 23 that I can remember. Three of them are fiction. I think last year I didn’t read any fiction, and I said that I wanted to start including some of that again back in my reading, so that happened on three occasions this time. I’m going to go through now six of the books. These are my six favourites for the year.
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My first one is called This Book Will Save Your Life by A. M. Homes. This is fiction. The title is terrible in comparison to actually what the book is about. It’s about a father having a midlife crisis, and he’s trying to reconnect with his son and find out what makes him happy and living in LA. I really enjoyed it because it was such a page-turner, and it was a really easy read. Immediately sucked in from page 1. I think often with fiction, there is a point where you’ve got to persevere to start with to then really get into it, and with this there was none of that. The whole time, it was really engaging, and it was just a really easy read.
It had actually been sitting on my shelf for a number of years. I can’t remember where I bought it or when I bought it, but I had a decision this year to really scale back on buying books because I have so many books on my bookshelf that I haven’t read. At some point I was looking through and I picked this up, and it was really great. It was really, really enjoyable and I now want to go and check out more books by this author. So if you’re looking for some fiction that is very easy to read, then I would recommend this. It’s called This Book Will Save Your Life by A. M. Homes.
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The next book was The Fifth Risk: Undoing Democracy by Michael Lewis. I’m a big fan of Michael Lewis. I included one of his books last year on my list called The Undoing Project, which was about Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman. He is also the writer who wrote Moneyball and he wrote The Big Short, both of which have been turned into films.
I actually read this at the very start of the year, the very start of 2020. I bought it in an airport on the way to Australia. What he talked about in that book has become very relevant now. It looked at the problems in government for two areas, and this is looking at the U.S. and the problems where institutions within government are gutted and that government becomes smaller and smaller, and things that people don’t really understand how important they are get cut.
He also talks about the importance of the transition period, going from one government to the next government. He talked a lot about how grateful Obama was to George W. Bush in that he got such a great transition. When Obama was elected and there’s this transition period of six weeks or two months, George W. Bush put everyone on it and gave him a really smooth transition into government.
Then when Obama was going out of government, he wanted to do the exact same thing. He wanted to give Trump a really smooth transition into the White House, and they set up these transition teams. On Day 1 they were expecting all of these people to turn up and no one turned up, and then weeks went by where no one was turning up. Then with a couple of days to go, one person would turn up for a meeting for three hours and then they would go, and that was kind of it. He talked about how devastating that can be in terms of starting the new cycle as a government. So it’s very interesting now to see how all of this is playing out with the Trump government at the moment.
I thought it was a really well-written book. It was pretty alarming in many ways. But Michael Lewis has a really great writing style. It’s very easy to read. It’s a pretty short book in the whole scheme of things, but it’s pretty accurate how much of what he was talking about is now coming to fruition. So that is The Fifth Risk: Undoing Democracy by Michael Lewis.
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The next book is called It Wasn’t Your Fault by Beverly Engel. This was actually recommended to me by a client of mine. As part of the work that we were doing together, she decided that she wanted to start working on the fact that she had been abused as a child. She started to work with a therapist, and they recommended a number of books, and this was one of the books that they recommended to her.
It’s about compassion and self-compassion, but with the focus being for those who have suffered childhood abuse of some kind, whether that be physical or mental or sexual. It’s looking at why someone who has had that experience or experiences in childhood can have such a difficult time with compassion and self-compassion. Beverly Engel is a therapist and someone who suffered many of these abuses herself growing up, so a lot of this has come from her own healing, but also working as a counsellor or therapist for many decades. This is something she’s done in private practice as well.
For me, I’ve found that it’s been a really great book for bridging the gap because I am such a big proponent of self-compassion and think it is really integral to so much of the work that I do. If you listen to the podcast I did with Josie Geller, we actually talk a lot about this and how if self-compassion is not there, that can be a roadblock to healing from eating disorders. And it’s not just eating disorders that it can be a roadblock for; it can be for many different reasons.
So this book was great in talking about why self-compassion is important – which I already knew, but in terms of why it can then be so difficult and why someone who has had such a traumatic start to life can struggle with putting that into practice. I really, really enjoyed it – ‘enjoyed’ is probably the wrong word because it is quite a tough book and there’s definitely some upsetting parts, but it is very practical. It is very helpful. I have recommended it to a number of clients this year, and I’ve actually reached out to Beverly, and she’s going to be on the podcast in the early part of 2021. That is called It Wasn’t Your Fault by Beverly Engel.
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The next book is More Than a Body by Lindsay and Lexie Kite. This is probably one that’s more familiar if you’re a regular listener. I just released a podcast with Lindsay talking all about this book. It’s looking at body image and body image resilience and how you can learn to see your body as an instrument for living and helping you navigate in this world and getting enjoyment and happiness and all of those things instead of it just being an ornament for objectification and self-objectification.
There’s a lot that we dig into as part of the recent podcast. We talk about self-objectification. We talk about health and fitness and the problems that are caused because of the mainstream media and the way that it’s looked at. We look at the belief that people will be happier when they’re thinner and how misguided this can be and the process by which you can change this. There’s a lot in that podcast, and it will give you a good taste for the book.
This is something that I’m definitely going to be recommending a lot with clients. It’s only just been released – I think it was released on Christmas day or the day after, so now that it’s out, I will be recommending it to clients and getting them to use it regularly. So that is the book called More Than a Body by Lindsay and Lexie Kite.
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The next book is called Little Girls in Pretty Boxes by Joan Ryan. This is another book that I’d had sitting on my shelf for a very long time. Again, I’m not sure when I bought this, but it had sat on my bookshelf for a while and I pulled it out this year. It’s actually a pretty old book; it was released in ’95. I was reading it, and early on in the book, she makes reference to the fact that Boris Becker recently won some tennis tournament. I was like, hang on a second, Boris Becker has not been playing tennis for a very long time. So I checked the front of the book and I was like, okay, this was released in 1995.
The book focuses on gymnastics and on figure skating and the pressure that is put on these very young girls who participate in these sports, and the injuries and the eating disorders and the abuse that has gone on. With each of these, it goes through different participants and talks about their stories. Despite being written 25 years ago, in some ways, or in many ways, very little has changed.
This year I watched the documentary on Netflix called Cheer, which is all about cheerleading and a particular school that has been winning all of these cheerleading competitions, but it was pretty difficult to watch because you’re seeing these young kids with broken bodies and training with injuries and trying to weigh less. You just see really how disposable these kids are in terms of wanting to win some tournament and being pushed beyond what should be happening for a healthy body.
Whereas with other sports, in terms of basketball or NFL, there could be someone who pushes themselves because they’re likely to have a career in this, so there is something that could be potentially riding on it in terms of them making a large income and that then being their life, with this, after they finish college there is no more of the kind of cheerleading they’re doing. So this is something they’re doing at a very young age that is probably going to have an impact on them for the rest of their life in a pretty negative way, or likely in a negative way. It seemed to match up very much with what was talked about in the book.
I also listened to a podcast called Believe, which was all about Larry Nassar, the U.S. gymnastics team national doctor who is now in jail for abusing girls over a period of decades. This is also talked about as part of the book. So despite the book being quite an old book, it’s rather sad to see that nothing has changed.
I’ve done podcasts also on RED-S (relative energy deficiency in sport) and how that affects all of the different systems within the body. This book, again, when talking to all of the different interviewees, really highlights all of the different aspects of RED-S. Definitely not an uplifting book by any means, but gave a pretty eye-opening state of affairs for both of these sports in terms of figure skating and gymnastics, and I would imagine that it’s much broader than that.
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The next book is Shadow Daughter. This is by Harriet Brown. This is a book that is all about family estrangement. Family relationships can often be fraught with difficulties, and for many people it reaches the point that it’s better for them to not have that person or persons in their life. This is definitely not an easy decision, and there’s a lot of taboo around this as a topic.
This book is a memoir, or part memoir, by Harriet Brown. She talks about the troubled relationship that she had with her mother, and she also looks at the research around estrangement and conducted many interviews as part of writing this book.
I actually had Harriet on the podcast and we talked about this. It was Episode 203. We talk about the fact that estrangement can happen on a continuum depending on how much contact or non-contact you have. We talk about attachment and conditional versus unconditional parenting and early childhood experiences and how these can have an impact on sense of self and self-esteem for the rest of someone’s life. We talked about forgiveness and what this actually means. Harriet had done a lot of exploration in this area, so we go through that.
Estrangement is a topic that has come up a lot more in my practice this year, so that was part of the reason why I read the book and part of the reason why I wanted to have Harriet on the podcast. I do see that it does happen a lot for clients that have eating disorders; there has been or is still a figure in their life – it can be a parent or a relative – that is having a detrimental effect. They do really struggle with the decision of how to navigate that relationship.
It’s, again, not an easy book to read because it is quite saddening in parts, but if that is something that you’re dealing with, I would highly recommend checking it out. It’s called Shadow Daughter by Harriet Brown.
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So those are the books that I wanted to recommend, the six. The other thing I wanted to mention that I do a lot of the evenings is I will play Sudoku. I’ve got a Sudoku book. That’s often something I’ll do in bed. If I’m not reading in bed, I will do that. I find that for me, it’s a great way for my mind to settle, especially if I’ve been working late. If I’ve finished up with a client call pretty late and I’m finishing that and just getting straight into bed, I find that I need something to help me wind down for the day. Sometimes playing some Sudoku as opposed to just reading something can be helpful for that. So that’s something that I do.
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The next section is documentaries. I watched 26 documentaries in total this year, and again, these will all be in the show notes. I’ve started to include documentary series in this list. I hadn’t done that in previous years, but I did this year just because they’re coming up a lot more. They’re much more common, especially on Netflix, that there’ll be a documentary series, and they were a large chunk of what I watched this year. So I wanted to include them as well because they can be incredible, and I didn’t want to skip over them.
I’m going to talk about six documentaries. For a couple of these, I’ve talked about them previously. At the end of episodes I make some recommendations of things that I’ve watched or consumed and want to pass on, so some of these I have mentioned before. But I’m going to cover them again because I know that not everyone listens to every single episode.
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The best documentary, or my favourite documentary for this year, was The Last Dance. This is a 10-part documentary series on Netflix all about the Chicago Bulls. It was from the late ’80s through to most of the ’90s, so looking at when they won six NBA titles. A large focus of this was on Michael Jordan, who was the centrepiece and the superstar of that team.
This was an incredibly well put together documentary. There’s so much great archive footage that they were able to use, going back to when all these stars were in college. There’s incredible interviews. They actually did interviews with each of them a number of times, and for subsequent interviews they would often show them a clip of what someone else said to get their reaction. It just goes into so much detail.
This was a really big part of my childhood, or covered a big period of my childhood, so it brought up a lot of memories for me. I’m not sure how I remember a lot of this because I didn’t actually watch much basketball when I was growing up. I was into it, but I don’t know how much of the NBA was being broadcast in Australia. So I don’t know how I remember so much of this, but I do.
It was great to get to see Michael Jordan interviewed for such a long time because he is such an interesting person. Very supremely talented in what he did and what he was able to achieve, but you also get the sense that he’s not the most likeable or agreeable person. Great for winning championships, but outside of that, I don’t know how much time I would want to spend around him.
I would say that like all good documentaries, if you’re not into the topic at hand, you’ll still find it interesting. And this is definitely the case. Even if you have absolutely no interest in basketball, this is still fascinating to watch. I would say those who are triggered by exercise and exercise leading to comparison, this is probably one to avoid because it’s a lot of people playing a lot of basketball and training a lot, but otherwise it is really fascinating.
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The next documentary that I really enjoyed this year was called My Octopus Teacher. I mentioned this I think probably a couple months ago on the podcast.
I’d first heard about this through David Farrier, who is a New Zealand journalist and a documentarian. He created Tickled, which is one of my favourite documentaries of all time. If you’ve never seen Tickled, I would highly, highly, highly recommend watching it because it is just bizarre and has many twists and turns and is not what you’re expecting. But yeah, I heard David Farrier interviewed and talking about how much he enjoyed this, so I took note. Then a client also made a recommendation of it, and that jogged my memory, so I checked it out.
It’s the story of a South African guy who is also a documentary filmmaker who’s having a midlife crisis, and he’s feeling burnt out. He goes back to his home in South Africa and starts swimming in the sea and finds that this assists with his mental health. At some point while swimming in this new area, he discovers this octopus. Then he goes back the next day to see it again, and he then decides to take his camera and starts going back every day. This becomes the documentary about him developing this relationship with an octopus – which sounds strange when I say it out loud, and it is strange in parts. I was chatting with a friend about it recently who saw it, and he said it felt in moments like it was a spoof, like it was something from Saturday Night Live, because of how passionately he talks about the octopus.
But it really is a beautiful story. It’s shot magnificently well and it is stunning in that way. It’s narrated well and edited well. It feels like one part David Attenborough style documentary, where you are learning about the wonders of the octopus lifecycle that I never knew about, and the wonders of the sea, and definitely getting things on film that have never been caught on film before. And then it’s one part relationship story and about the guy’s relationship with the octopus and about the relationship he has with his son and his own life.
I just found that this was a really sweet story and rather feel-good, which definitely contrasts to a lot of the darker stuff that I listen to and watch. It’s called My Octopus Teacher and it’s on Netflix.
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The next documentary is called Hail Satan. This was one that, again, I think I’ve mentioned before on the podcast, way back in maybe the March or April or May time. I hadn’t heard of it before, but I was scrolling on Netflix and it came across the screen. I had heard a lot about the moral panic around Satanism in the ’80s and early ’90s, and that was kind of what I assumed this was going to be about. But it turned out to be completely different.
It follows the rise and influence of the Satanic Temple in the U.S. and how they’re using the laws around religious freedom to push for the separation of church and state. They’re doing this by basically saying, “If you’re going to put up a statue of the Ten Commandments on a government building, we want you to put up a statue from our religion, so a statue of Baphomet, because it needs to be equal. If you’re going to have one religion up, we’re going to have another.”
While the name “the Satanic Temple” probably carries lots of negative connotations, they have seven tenets which, for someone like myself, are hard to disagree with.
Tenet (1): One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason. (2) The struggle for justice is a necessary and ongoing pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. (3) One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. (4) The freedom of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend; to wilfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own. (5) Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world; one should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs. (6) People are fallible; if one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. (7) Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought; the spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
You might not have guessed that the Satanic Temple would have them as their tenets, but that is the tenets of that religion. I found this a really interesting documentary and worth a watch. It’s called Hail Satan.
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The next documentary is called Three Identical Strangers. It’s the story of three identical twins who were separated at birth, and they then find each other in their late teens when they go to college. One of them turns up at college, and people are calling him by a different name and he’s never been to the college before, and he’s wondering why everyone thinks he’s called this other name. Then someone comes into his new dorm room and figures out, “Hang on, this isn’t the person we think it is.” Then he gets met up with his identical twin brother. This then becomes a big news story and it goes into the newspaper, and then the third twin sees their pictures in the newspaper and is like, “Hang on, these are also my brothers” and meets up with them.
These triplets who were separated at birth then come back together and they start living with one another and open a restaurant together. It really follows their life and how things pan out. It’s a really great story in terms of looking at nurture versus nature. One of them was put into a working class home, one of them was put into a middle class home, one was put into an upper class home. They had different parenting styles in these different homes. So looking at how that affected them.
The film is then an investigation into how this could happen. How could three triplets be separated at birth and each of the parents have no knowledge about it? There’s definitely some tragic elements as part of this film. It’s a real exploration into human nature and, as I said, nature versus nurture. That’s called Three Identical Strangers.
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The next documentary is called The Social Dilemma. I know I definitely talked about this recently on one of the podcasts. I’d seen it on Netflix, but I kept skipping over it, but then I found out who the documentary was made by and who was behind it, and that was Tristan Harris. He is the founder of the company called Humane Technology, and I’d heard him on a number of podcasts before and loved what he had to share. I think he’s a supremely intelligent human being, with his heart squarely in the right place. Then I found out other people who were part of it in terms of Jaron Lanier and Roger McNamee and Jonathan Haidt. So I then decided I wanted to check it out.
The crux of the documentary is about how social media and the internet is reshaping our world and our minds, and not for the better. The increase in fake news, in polarisation, in anxiety, in teen suicide, in teen self-harm, the rise of populist movements and bad actors and bad states who are able to destabilise democracy and destabilise the very idea of truth.
I’ve listened to a lot of podcasts on this topic, so it wasn’t a huge amount of new information, but I thought it was put together really, really well and got the point across well. If this is a new topic area, then it will be rather eye-opening. I’m someone who is somewhat concerned about this, and obviously being a father and knowing how much technology has changed in just the last decade, to think that when Ramsay is going to be a teenager in another 10 years, what are things going to be like then? I have no idea how things are going to turn out.
Obviously, part of the documentary is really trying to push for things to change in terms of these technologies. I’ve heard Tristan on podcasts talking about how well the documentary has done in terms of watches and reaching people, so hopefully this does start to spur some changes on. But it definitely made me make changes in terms of how I use my own technology, and remove certain apps from my phone and just be much more cognisant of things, turn off notifications, etc. I found it interesting but also quite practical because I finished up watching it and instantly made some changes to help. It’s called The Social Dilemma and it is on Netflix.
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The final documentary is called Feels Good Man. I actually watched this on my birthday, which shows how much I love documentaries – although we were in lockdown, so there wasn’t really many other options.
This is a documentary about a comic character called Pepe the Frog which was created, and it goes from being a comic book and this comic book character to then merging into being this meme that starts to show up a lot. Then the meme really gets hijacked by the alt-right and starts to show up on 4chan and 8chan, and then gets marked as a hate symbol. So Pepe the Frog becomes a hate symbol. It’s about the creator of Pepe the Frog trying to get his character back. This character was meant to be really fun-loving and definitely not associated with all of the things that it became associated with.
There was a lot in here that I didn’t know about or I’d heard about just in passing in terms of 4chan and 8chan and what these message boards were and how much these message boards had an impact on the 2016 election and getting Trump into government. Really quite eye-opening in terms of parts of the internet that I really didn’t know very much about.
The documentary, despite what I’m talking about, is quite sweet in parts. There’s just this guy who is an artist and a cartoonist and is very laidback and seeing his character turned into this hate symbol. It’s then him trying to get it back and starting to sue different people and winning those cases. I found it a really great documentary. It’s called Feels Good Man.
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So those were the documentaries for the year. The next category is podcasts. I rarely listen to podcasts within the same niche that I’m working in terms of eating disorders and recovery and the wellness space. Podcasts for me are about relaxation or about laughter, or often, like many of the documentary choices, hearing about the darker side of human nature – which is definitely the case for some of the recommendations I’m going to make.
But yeah, most of the podcast listening that I do has nothing to do with work – or is to do with work, but very tentatively because I’m interested in psychology or I’m interested in something that someone’s talking about on a podcast. But it’s definitely not directly related.
In previous years, I think for nearly all of the years that I’ve done this show, I’ve mentioned Revisionist History and also Making Sense, which used to be called Waking Up, as favourite podcasts. I still listen to both of these, but there are others that I want to highlight this year.
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The first podcast – and it feels strange saying that this is my favourite podcast of the year because of how dark it is, but it was just done so well – it’s called Hunting Warhead. I listened to this at the fairly early part of 2020, and it has stuck with me the whole year.
It tells the story of the hunt by police and journalists for the people behind one of the biggest Dark Web online child abuse forums and how the forum got taken down and taken over by the police. The police caught the person who was running it and then took control of the site, but without any of the members of the site knowing that that had happened. They were wanting to keep it up as a way of trying to catch more people, so it explores the ethics of this and how they made the decision to do this.
It looks at the investigative journalism and the rabbit holes that they would go down to try and understand what was going on. It’s very harrowing because they, for one of the episodes, interview the guy who was running the site. This is one of the most chilling things I’ve ever listened to, with him talking about what he’d done and showing no remorse and really laughing about things and laughing about stuff that came out later on in the court case that they hadn’t known about.
It goes without saying that this is incredibly full-on and dark, but it really does show investigative journalism at its best. I think there is a lot more of this going on than people want to talk about or admit to, and it is a very taboo subject. But yeah, it did make me rethink different relationships and rethink things in the world. If you have the stomach for this kind of thing, this is very well put together. It’s called Hunting Warhead.
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The next one I want to recommend is called Rabbit Hole. This is also rather dark, but not to the same degree as Hunting Warhead. It’s an eight-part series that was put together by the New York Times looking at what the internet is doing to us.
There’s a little bit of overlap here between Rabbit Hole and The Social Dilemma. They don’t cover a lot of the same ground, but they’re looking at the same general concepts. For the first three episodes, they’re looking at YouTube and the algorithm of YouTube and how that can lead people down rabbit holes and the impact that that can have on someone. They focus on a guy called Caleb. He was someone who got into YouTube and then was watching a really obscene amount every day, like 8-10 hours a day. He was listening to it while he was asleep.
They have his watch history for four or five years and just go back through it and see how he’s led down these different paths where he goes from someone who originally voted for Obama to someone who was then into these alt-right, right wing extremist videos and very much watching that thing and believing in that thing, and how he then shifts over to being on the left and very extreme left and how that sequence happened through the different videos that he saw.
It talks about the Swedish gamer called PewDiePie and how he amassed 100 million followers on YouTube. He’s someone who I’d never even heard of, and yet he’s got the highest number of followers on YouTube – or at least, he did at the time this podcast was recorded. It talks about the content that he was putting out and how it initially started as gaming and then morphed into something else. They talk about TikTok, and the last couple episodes are looking at QAnon and conspiracy theories.
Kind of like with Feels Good Man, the documentary, there was so much in here that I was completely unaware of. I’ve never been someone who spent much time on YouTube, or if I spend time on YouTube, it’s because I’m going specifically to watch something that is of my choosing. It’s not that I go on and then start scrolling based on the recommendations and going down any of the rabbit holes. There was a lot in here that I didn’t know about. And it’s by the New York Times, so it’s really well put together. I would highly recommend checking it out.
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The next one is Armchair Expert. This is a podcast that I discovered – I think it was recommended to me late last year, so late 2019, and it was at some point in early 2020 that I started listening to it and really, really got into it. It’s Dax Shepard. Dax Shepard is an actor and a comedian. He’s also married to Kristen Bell.
I find him just an incredible interviewer. He is very, very intelligent and well-read and has a really wide range of knowledge and highly rational. He has very high EQ and is someone who’s done a lot of therapy and a lot of exploration around psychology and human nature. He’s struggled with addiction, so he’s in AA – issues with alcohol and cocaine.
He’s also very funny. As a stand-up comedian or just a comedian, I think he was in The Groundlings, so improv. He’s very quick-witted. So he has all of these elements that, for a lot of people that I listen to, they’ll have one of these or two of these things, but they don’t typically have all of them. He’s just this really great mix.
One of the interesting things this year – obviously, because of the pandemic, so many podcasts that used to be done in person are now done via Zoom. People like Marc Maron or Adam Buxton have had to then convert over to Zoom, and the same thing with Dax Shepard. Their podcasts used to be recorded in person. What is interesting is for pretty much all the podcasts I listen to who’ve had to shift over to doing it via Zoom, there’s been a real drop down in quality of their conversations. It is much more stunted. It feels less going with the flow. I can notice a real big difference that they’re not in the room with that person, whereas with him, I cannot notice a difference. Because I’ve been listening to old episodes, I don’t know which ones are via Zoom and which ones aren’t. I think that is a real credit to him and his ability as an interviewer.
There can be some focus on exercise; there can be objectifying comments that he makes, typically in jest. He probably has issues around body image and food himself. I mean, he lives in LA and he’s a celebrity, so it kind of is par for the course. With those warnings out there, it is still a very good listen.
I’ve probably listened to 40-50 episodes this year, so it is a bit of a blur in terms of what to recommend because I’ve enjoyed so many of them. But the ones that stick out to me – Will Ferrell, I remember laughing hysterically for the majority of the interview. I thought that was done very well.
The first episode he did of the podcast, is him with his wife Kristen Bell, and the first half an hour is basically them having an argument – which sounds strange, but is actually interesting to listen to. It gives a bit of an insight into all of the therapy that they’ve done together as a couple and his ability to talk to people.
There’s a great interview he did with Monica Lewinsky, which I found was fascinating. Obviously I knew a little about her, but I hadn’t really heard her talk in an interview. I’d seen her TED talk but hadn’t heard anything apart from that. So I thought that was great.
And then he did a recent episode called Day Seven, which was about him having a relapse recently. He’s someone who is just so calm and funny and always feels totally at ease when he’s interviewing people, and as someone who’s listened to so many episodes like that, to hear him on this Day Seven where he’s talking about the relapse and all the things as part of that – you could just hear the tension that is there. If you hadn’t listened to any of his other episodes and Day Seven was the first, you might not notice it. But for someone who is a regular listener, you can really notice it and you could hear the authenticity that was there.
So Armchair Expert is definitely the thing that I listened to the most of anything this year. I really do recommend it. I have a lot of envy of him as an interviewer because I think he is an incredible interviewer.
00:46:55
The next is just a separate single episode of a podcast that I listened to. The podcast is called Reply All, and it’s Episode 158: The Case of the Missing Hit. This was recommended to me by my sister. She and I are both into music; she works in the music industry.
It’s an episode about a guy who remembers this song from his youth. I think he must be in his mid-thirties and he’s driving home and he starts humming this song and then singing this song. His partner is like, “I don’t remember this. I don’t even know this song.” So he then goes and tries to look it up on the internet and types in some of the lyrics, expecting it to come up, and nothing comes up. He has this thing now as an earworm, ticking over in his mind. He’s remembering more and more of the lyrics and more and more of the melody and the different instruments that come in. so he goes on this mission to try to find this song.
He hires session musicians to recreate the song, and then he takes it around to music execs to see if they can remember the song or point him in the right direction. For me, as someone who loves music, this was a great thriller or like a murder mystery of trying to figure out what was going on here. It’s just absolutely fascinating, and fascinating that someone can remember so much of a song from so long ago that they’re not actually sure if it even really exists. This guy then has this moment of starting to think, “Have I made all of this up?”
I highly recommend checking it out. It’s a really fascinating episode. It’s Reply All, Episode 158: The Case of the Missing Hit.
00:49:05
The final episode I’m going to mention – and again, this is just a single episode, and I have mentioned this previously on one of my other podcasts – it’s a Tim Ferriss episode. It’s Episode 464, and it’s My Healing Journey After Childhood Abuse.
Tim Ferriss was the first podcast I got into in a big way. I was just in awe of being able to listen to long-form interviews and hear celebrities. For a number of years, I listened to everything that he was putting out. Over time I started to find it a little bit frustrating and found his interviewing style a bit frustrating, so now it’s something I only very occasionally listen to, if I’m really interested in hearing a particular guest.
But this one really grabbed me because I saw it come through my emails, and it wasn’t about a particular guest, but it was about Tim opening up about childhood sexual abuse that he had suffered. It’s really about him talking about the last four or five or six years since he’s discovered the trauma and him dealing with it and the various healing modalities he’s used as part of this.
The podcast is him talking to Debbie Millman, who is someone who’d been on the podcast with him before, who is a writer and a designer and a brand consultant. She has her own podcast called Design Matters. But she had also experienced abuse as a child and has been in therapy for that for the past three decades.
There’s lots and lots of links that are made as part of that episode. If you go to the episode on Tim’s website, there’s a ton of different links and resources. I found this really useful because one, I think this is a subject that’s not talked about very much. There is a huge amount of shame around it, and it’s just so hidden away. Tim has such a huge platform, and for him to be speaking up about this issue I thought was great. It will hopefully start to make a bit of a dent in things and make a change.
I’d say the same with Dax Shepard. He is someone who has experienced childhood abuse, and he is very open about talking about it. I think that’s great to hear.
What I also really liked about this episode is Tim and Debbie have had very different experiences with healing and have taken very different approaches. Tim has been much more drawn to the nonverbal therapies and psychedelics, which explains why he’s been so involved in promoting research around this and donating large sums of money, like in the millions, to Johns Hopkins as part of research. Debbie’s taken more of a talk therapy or traditional approach where she’s been doing this consistently every week for decades.
As I said, in the episode there’s many references to books and documentaries and modalities that are helpful. I have recommended this to a number of clients who’ve had similar experiences, and they found the episode to be really useful for them. So I do highly recommend checking it out. That was Episode 464: My Healing Journey After Childhood Abuse, and that’s The Tim Ferriss Show.
00:53:11
That’s it for the podcasts. Music is the final category here. It’s been a bit of a weird year for me with music. When I look at my Spotify account, I haven’t added much new stuff. When I’m listening to stuff on Spotify, I’ll create a playlist, even if it’s just the album as a playlist, and when I look through I haven’t added a huge amount this year. But I have been constantly listening to music because it’s what I do when I work. I probably spent a lot of time just listening to the Discover Weekly feature on Spotify. It refreshes every week, and there’s three hours of new music.
A lot of artists, or all artists, have had large chunks of this year or majority of this year – and this is still the case – where they haven’t been able to play, so there’s been lots of livestreams that have been put on. I think that has also taken up a lot of my listening for this year.
00:54:19
Some of the things that come to mind in terms of what I listened to – Boiler Room does lots of electronic music and DJing that they broadcast. They had a thing this year – I’m not sure if it’s still going on; it probably is. It’s called Boiler Room: From Isolation. It would be people DJing from their home or from a location where they’re on their own. So I’ve been listening to a lot of these. The two that I listened to the most was Job Jobse and Dixon. Both of those Boiler Room: From Isolations have had lots and lots of plays for me this year, and they’re both on YouTube.
John Digweed is a DJ that I first got into back in the mid-’90s. He was someone that I listened to for quite a while, and then probably the last decade I haven’t really listened to very much of his stuff. But when the lockdown started, he started doing – he called them Bunker Sessions, where he would play from his studio or room in his house. Every week he was playing for two or three or five hours. I really enjoyed them. He was playing music that would be new music, but also stuff going back to the early ’90s and mid-’90s. So that was a real enjoyable thing and something I’d listen to as the new one came out every single week.
They’ve probably been the electronic music I’ve listened to the most this year.
00:56:09
I discovered a band called Neutral Milk Hotel, which I found through Spotify recommendations. I think they came up in some of the playlists in terms of the Discover Weekly feature. I’m not sure how I missed this band. These are a band from the late ’90s, and it’s definitely stuff that I would’ve been into when I was at school if I had discovered them, but for some reason I missed them.
They have an album called In the Aeroplane Over the Sea which I listened to a lot this year. That was one of the new things that I discovered from a very long time ago.
00:56:53
Same with Elliott Smith. Some of his music started to appear in my Discovery Weekly feature, and there’s this song called ‘Needle in the Hay’, and when it came on I was really wracking my brain, thinking, “Why do I know this song so well?” Then I googled it, and it’s used in The Royal Tenenbaums, which is one of my favourite films. I then also discovered that he had had a lot of his music on the Good Will Hunting soundtrack.
Again, it’s another musician from the mid-’90s that I was obviously vaguely aware of but really didn’t know his name. I’d only heard his songs in films. So I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole with him, discovered that he had died from suicide. I actually watched a documentary about him called Heaven Adores You. So yeah, I listened to a fair bit of his music this year.
00:58:03
Then the last couple of months – and again, I don’t know how this came about – I started listening to some of the Flight of the Conchords. Flight of the Conchords is one of my favourite TV shows of all time. They are two New Zealand actors/musicians who had a TV show on HBO. I think they had two seasons; one was in 2007, one was in 2009, somewhere around there. They just do spoof songs. The TV show was about these two New Zealand musicians who were in a band and living in New York, and the shows would be about them trying to get gigs and play gigs. As part of each of the shows, they would have two or three or four parody songs.
But what was great about them is they are very good musicians, but they are also very, very funny. They did a live show in London in 2018 that was recorded, and that is on Spotify. I actually remember watching the show on a flight once, and when I then discovered it on Spotify I started listening to it again. I’ve been listening to it a lot on repeat. As I said, it kind of sounds weird that they’re spoof/parody songs, but the musicianship is really high, and it’s very enjoyable. So that has been taking up a lot of my listening recently.
00:59:55
That is it for the music and that is it for this week’s episode. They are the things that I’ve been listening to and watching and consuming and reading over the last year.
As always with these episodes, I’d love to hear your feedback. What have been your favourite books and documentaries and podcasts and music from this year? Or you can tell me other categories – favourite films or favourite games or whatever else you’ve loved this year.
You can email info@seven-health.com, and I would love to hear what’s been doing it for you this year. I always like this part of doing this podcast, because I typically get back recommendations that I can then check out.
So that is it for this week’s show. I will be back next week, and I will catch you then.
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